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i mean, i was just struck by that video of paul ryan. there's no empathy there. no attempt to reach out and say hey, look. i understand what people are going through and this is what mitt romney and i want to do. and what's so devastating about that ad from the obama for america campaign where they just run mitt romney's words and you see women, but you also see senior citizens and variety rans and all sorts of people who make up the 47% who for one reason or another, paul ryan doesn't realize that a lot of the 47% are the very people who are in their base and the people they need to vote for them in november. >> let's see if mitt romney has been prepped with a better answer about the 47% tomorrow night. thank you for joining me. >> thank you lawrence. >>> coming up. mitt romney's secret tax returns are still making headlines. "the new york times" used romney's tax returns and new bain documents to expose mitt romney's lies about his money. >>> and the republican voter suppression movement suffered a big loss today in a pennsylvania courtroom. joy reid is here wi
i mean, i was just struck by that video of paul ryan. there's no empathy there. no attempt to reach out and say hey, look. i understand what people are going through and this is what mitt romney and i want to do. and what's so devastating about that ad from the obama for america campaign where they just run mitt romney's words and you see women, but you also see senior citizens and variety rans and all sorts of people who make up the 47% who for one reason or another, paul ryan doesn't realize...
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paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59 hfr point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far aand away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney actually shifting positions or emphasizing different elements of his positions? because when i watched and what i saw was a different approach to governance on display and a very different set of policies he was underscoring but not actually going off any of the policies he had espoused up to that night. >> i think you're right. what's been different was tone more than substance, style more than substance. i also think it's not a surprise that that's what he did at a debate that is not strictly for the republican audience. i think he's appealing to a broader group of voters. one of the things that romn
paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59 hfr point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far aand away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney...
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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll...
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let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, you're going to have to explain your plans to the american people. take all the time you want. especially here on "the ed show." you guys have been complaining about media fairness preponderance let's talk it over. today paul ryan told a radio host in milwaukee why he wouldn't give chris wallace the math. >> you know, i like chris. i didn't want to get into all of the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. >> so nice of paul ryan to be concerned about chris wallace's ratings rather than presenting the details of hi
let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a...
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. >> paul ryan is cutting 716 for medicare. the exact same number in his budget which was passed by the republican house and the president never mentioned it. >> it does remind you that the last debate that mitt romney was seven months ago and the last debate that barack obama had was four years ago. and the people he's used to sparring with are reporters. >> how did he prepare? how did the president prepare for this? >> we got 45 minutes in before we got a ryan budget mentioned. mitt romney made the choice to put ryan on the ticket. when we look at where the polls started to separate before the convention, right around when ryan was put on the ticket. when do the numbers on medicare and the polling start to go upside down for the republicans? when ryan is put on the ticket. yet we get 45 minutes through the debate before paul ryan is mentioned. he's the incarnation of the modern republican party which will inherit the power that you give to mitt romney since they will be governing from the house most likely. that is the key th
. >> paul ryan is cutting 716 for medicare. the exact same number in his budget which was passed by the republican house and the president never mentioned it. >> it does remind you that the last debate that mitt romney was seven months ago and the last debate that barack obama had was four years ago. and the people he's used to sparring with are reporters. >> how did he prepare? how did the president prepare for this? >> we got 45 minutes in before we got a ryan budget...
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the same is true with his running mate, paul ryan. unfortunately, we'll probably hear more of that this week. we do have a great surrogate team and they're on the ground in their respective cities or states. they move around. i certainly move around. you talk about deval patrick, i'm in chicago, rahm emanuel, stephanie rawlins blake in baltimore, kasim reed, the list goes on and on. we have the best candidate in president obama and vice president biden. we have the greatest surrogate team, and they're on the ground in those places where there are real people with real issues and real problems, and they're talking about the things that the president talks about, jobs and the economy, health care, education, energy, and tax reform. those are the president's themes. he's never walked away from any of those issues, and it's easier, i think quite frankly for mitt romney to have multiple positions on the same issue because he has no plans. he has no ideas. he has no proposals. he's not ready for prime time. >> okay. we've got a month to go.
the same is true with his running mate, paul ryan. unfortunately, we'll probably hear more of that this week. we do have a great surrogate team and they're on the ground in their respective cities or states. they move around. i certainly move around. you talk about deval patrick, i'm in chicago, rahm emanuel, stephanie rawlins blake in baltimore, kasim reed, the list goes on and on. we have the best candidate in president obama and vice president biden. we have the greatest surrogate team, and...
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paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favori
paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this...
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and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in the back room and i don't give a damn about half the country, that's not a gaffe but a revelation. >> biden by the way knows this debate is a really big deal. chris: yeah. >> biden has to keep it together. but if he does, he has a major advantage and that is most of the stuff that ryan is selling, especially on the economy is just not true. it has a proven track record of failure. chris: is he the kind of guy to do that? >> the record, that's what he has to do. chris: if he keeps it serious and sober, will he beat joe biden, doesn't he have to be the puppy dog that slobbers all over you? >> he's planning to go after paul ryan's budget cuts and make them specific and make them real.
and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in the back room and i don't give a damn about half the country, that's not a gaffe but a revelation. >> biden by the...
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hopefully, paul ryan outperforming joe biden. if that happens, look. one debate each of these things, carol, is a battle. but winning several battles wins the war. and, right now, we can say that he won a very important battle last night. it doesn't mean he is going to win the war but if he wins a second battle, that really does, i think, set a tone. if president obama does not come back strong in the second one and mitt romney outperforms him as he clearly did last night it truly will build on his momentum and i think becomes a game-changer. >> romney, the consensus is he won but that doesn't necessarily translate into actual votes. editorial of "the denver post" surveyed voters who were undecided once the debate ended. maria? >> absolutely. i think that is the critical question. what is so interesting to me, i was doing all of the debate commentary on cnnespanol. the consensus obama had won hands down by more than 2-1. and so the other thing that you saw throughout the debate is in the little lines that women were absolutely in favor of everything th
hopefully, paul ryan outperforming joe biden. if that happens, look. one debate each of these things, carol, is a battle. but winning several battles wins the war. and, right now, we can say that he won a very important battle last night. it doesn't mean he is going to win the war but if he wins a second battle, that really does, i think, set a tone. if president obama does not come back strong in the second one and mitt romney outperforms him as he clearly did last night it truly will build on...
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paul ryan a week ago was asked about the math for this and paul ryan, said, look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution is he just decided there wasn't math involved in this problem and that's absolutely crazy. look, the only thing he outlined that he would cut in the budget is big bird. you know, he's taken the battle straight to "sesame street" and let wall street run hog wild. it was a masterful manyperformance. it was fundamentally honest to the american people and if you're willing to say anything to get elected president, willing to make up your positions and walk away from them i think the american people have to understand how can they trust you if you are elected president. >> the vice presidential debate. joe biden coming up. he stepped in it a little bit this week with the comment about the middle class being buried the last four years. take a look. >> how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts. >> two questio
paul ryan a week ago was asked about the math for this and paul ryan, said, look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution is he just decided there wasn't math involved in this problem and that's absolutely crazy. look, the only thing he outlined that he would cut in the budget is big bird. you know, he's taken the battle straight to "sesame street" and let wall street run hog wild. it was a masterful manyperformance. it was fundamentally honest to the american people and...
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paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by his wife indicated a genuine anxiety she has for his mental well-being? >> well perhaps, an unspoken one. i don't think that obviously when she said mental well-being, i think she's talking about the emotional. the toughness it takes to stand in office. i'm not suggesting he somehow has borderline personality. i'm suggesting that the border states however are coming into view here and that the swing states certainly are up for grabs because mitt romney has squandered a serious purchase on his right wing constituency, gotten through paul rya
paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by...
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governor mitt romney and congressman paul ryan expected to take the stage around 6:45 tonight. the crowd said they're ready to celebrate last night's debate performance, and ready to rally around this gop team with excitement that even they can see hasn't been there before. >> woo! >> reporter: they lined up early in the shenandoah valley to see both gop running mates. they say it was mitt romney's performance that has suddenly renewed their enthusiasm for the ticket. >> i was yelling and screaming on the couch. i was pumped, excited. i think he did a wonderful job. >> reporter: mitt romney will spend three of the first five post-debate days in this battleground state in strong republican territory. but even here they admit before the debate, they were worried. their enthusiasm for their candidate lukewarm. >> with romney, before last night, i said, we're about 50%, 55%. after last night we're at about 100%. >> i was really pleased with the outcome last night. i thought mr. romney was -- he has statistics that just poured out like niagara falls, didn't they? >> reporter: but ob
governor mitt romney and congressman paul ryan expected to take the stage around 6:45 tonight. the crowd said they're ready to celebrate last night's debate performance, and ready to rally around this gop team with excitement that even they can see hasn't been there before. >> woo! >> reporter: they lined up early in the shenandoah valley to see both gop running mates. they say it was mitt romney's performance that has suddenly renewed their enthusiasm for the ticket. >> i was...
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you wrote an interesting article about paul ryan, speaking of "dumb and dumber." speaking of the topic we were discussing romney went further right picking his v.p. he was supposed to to help him. >> what is interesting on the polling of medicare and seniors who is obama's weakest demographic basically until the last month or two? it was seniors. seniors were very suspicious of obama. the foreignness the youth they saw him as liberal. and we've seen a dramatic turn around in call the key states. if you peel it back a little more, you find that is overwhelmingly related to the medicare question. the numbers on the medicare question particularly among seniors has shifted dramatically in obama's direction in just a month after ryan was initially picked. you'll recall they went very hard on medicare. they decided to run to their weakness, and they started to basically just lying or at least being incredibly dishonest saying that obama is going to do this and had cut 700 billion in change when, in fact ryan had cut the same amount in his budget proposal. you saw a litt
you wrote an interesting article about paul ryan, speaking of "dumb and dumber." speaking of the topic we were discussing romney went further right picking his v.p. he was supposed to to help him. >> what is interesting on the polling of medicare and seniors who is obama's weakest demographic basically until the last month or two? it was seniors. seniors were very suspicious of obama. the foreignness the youth they saw him as liberal. and we've seen a dramatic turn around in...
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so for mitt romney, it's 47% and for paul ryan it's 30%. the idea that a large portion of americans are beyond the reach of the kind of politics the republican ticket is offering, it turns out it's both guys on the ticket who believe that. it's not just mitt romney. joining us is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for "the huffington post." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this is not new tape tonight. these are not new remarks. they are from november. i have to ask how they came to your attention and whether there's any suggestion from the ryan camp or romney folks that there's any question to its authenticity. >> there's no question. it was at a spectator event last november. it's been online since then, almost nobody has viewed it. it was sent to me and a few other reporters over the weekend along with about 15 or 20 other clips of paul ryan saying things over the past ten years. and i had kind of put it off sunday and monday, and today i just decided i'd listen to a bunch of these clips and here you go. here's pa
so for mitt romney, it's 47% and for paul ryan it's 30%. the idea that a large portion of americans are beyond the reach of the kind of politics the republican ticket is offering, it turns out it's both guys on the ticket who believe that. it's not just mitt romney. joining us is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for "the huffington post." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this is not new tape tonight. these are not new remarks. they are from...
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paul ryan's an interesting character. going back to that first clip, mitt romney in that debate by ted kennedy. that was a brutal beat down. what lessons do you think he learned as a man, as a politician that he's applied to this campaign? >> i think mitt romney is a sales man, a business man. a not an id logical figure. he's basically selling a process of fixing things. he walked out of the moment i think believing strongly that if he was going to win anything, he had to have a basic sales p pitch. a basic guide who delivered, not ideology, not a big idea. we've never found any big idea that romney had politically, but he's a fixer and when 2012 comes along and he looks at the economy, that's what i was made to do. >> i got to tell you, just all the many of the critics claim that the president of the united states is a remote personality. just from your verbal description of what's in the film, it can sort of get an appreciation for the remoteness. >> of course. for both of them. >> but for a president who, for a young b
paul ryan's an interesting character. going back to that first clip, mitt romney in that debate by ted kennedy. that was a brutal beat down. what lessons do you think he learned as a man, as a politician that he's applied to this campaign? >> i think mitt romney is a sales man, a business man. a not an id logical figure. he's basically selling a process of fixing things. he walked out of the moment i think believing strongly that if he was going to win anything, he had to have a basic...
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paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >> probably not. it's old news. this is well-covered ground. and there's nothing in the speech that seems to me on the surface that's going to reset anything in the race. what it will do is create a conversation in conservative media about this event, the old tape here, as opposed to the expectations game that mitt romney is trying to control ahead of a really high-stakes debate. >> that's interesting. i don't mean to cast dispurgss on the journalist integrity, but i have noticed there have been a number of things that the ream campaign have wanted to inject in
paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >>...
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it's what he said, and that's what paul ryan said. i can't explain it to you. i can't explain it to you. takes too music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never misd a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ♪ neil: welcome back, everybody. david axelrod talking to a throng of supporters, the president's campaign manager, probably saying mitt romney won the debate -- not. i'm with senator marco rubio, the fine state of florida, and you an interesting point that forget about who won or lost. this helps rejazz the base. you didn't use those terms, but those who might have had concerns, this was slipping away from the romney campaign, this release them of that? >> it's more than that. the base, the conservatives, the
it's what he said, and that's what paul ryan said. i can't explain it to you. i can't explain it to you. takes too music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never misd a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70...
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. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates like this upcoming match-up between biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> can you see they have hit the standard of readiness, they will be ready to be able to step into the oval office and take the reigns of the presidency. but beyond that in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there's a star-killing or star-catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> brazil says the first rule here is to
. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable...
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joe biden against paul ryan. event. you're going to get on basic cable. then the one, the president and mitt romney. this time foreign-policy. right nearby year. outside the city.
joe biden against paul ryan. event. you're going to get on basic cable. then the one, the president and mitt romney. this time foreign-policy. right nearby year. outside the city.
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but the question is this, which paul ryan will show up? the new paul ryan since he got the nomination, much more reserved? or the older paul ryan when he was the house budget committee chairman, very tough, very feisty. >> i think paul ryan is going to show up one that's briefed, prepared, ready to go on this momentum. i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely different animals. and we haven't seen him do a lot of debating. so, you know, let's hope that he doesn't show up as rusty. if not, it will really build on republican momentum. and i think it will change the tone of this race. two debates where the republicans can really change it. >> a lot of the president's supporters didn't think he spent enough time preparing for this debate. romney spent a lot more time preparing than the president did. how much time between now and next thursday should the vice president spend? get rid of his campaigning and start practi
but the question is this, which paul ryan will show up? the new paul ryan since he got the nomination, much more reserved? or the older paul ryan when he was the house budget committee chairman, very tough, very feisty. >> i think paul ryan is going to show up one that's briefed, prepared, ready to go on this momentum. i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely...
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the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator widen who's the co-author of the bill with paul ryan in the senate but also it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that's been around a long time. saying, hey, let's see if we can't get competition into the medicare world so people can get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality, i believe in competion. >> jim, if i can respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown medicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it, and private insurers have to make a profit. nothing wrong with that. that's what they do. and so you have higher administrative costs, plus profit, on top of that. and if you are going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing, what has to happen, the money has to come from somewhere. and when you move to a voucher system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies, and over time, if traditional medicare has decayed or fallen apart then they're stuck. and this
the idea came not even from paul ryan or senator widen who's the co-author of the bill with paul ryan in the senate but also it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that's been around a long time. saying, hey, let's see if we can't get competition into the medicare world so people can get the choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality, i believe in competion. >> jim, if i can respond very quickly. first of all, every study has shown medicare has lower...
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but by picking paul ryan and laying out why he picked paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul ryan does represent the ideological -- how do i say it? the center of the republican party. he said, basically, that's why i'm picking paul ryan. now we don't have to guess about what governor romney meands means when he says things about medicare, social security, and all these things. it is almost like two incumbents running. because paul ryan, and i mean this sincerely, paul ryan introduced the ren republican budget in the house of representatives, sold by the republicans, that in fact lays out in stark detail what they would do on everything from medicare to medicaid to social security to education to the debt. i mean, across the board. so we don't have to wonder anymore. we don't have to wonder any more what governor romney means when he says a, b, c, or d. what they are doing these days, if you noticed, they are not talking anymore about what paul ryan and mitt romney are for. they are spending a lot of time telling you what we are against and what we have done. they have attacked ev
but by picking paul ryan and laying out why he picked paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul ryan does represent the ideological -- how do i say it? the center of the republican party. he said, basically, that's why i'm picking paul ryan. now we don't have to guess about what governor romney meands means when he says things about medicare, social security, and all these things. it is almost like two incumbents running. because paul ryan, and i mean this sincerely, paul ryan introduced the...
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the idea came not from paul ryan but also it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that has been around for a long time. we are saying let's bring competition into the medicare were also people can get a choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality, and better competition. >> first of all, every study has shown that meeicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. private insurance has to make a profit. there is nothing wrong with that, that is what they do. so you have higher administrative costs, plus profit on top of that, and if you were going to save any money through what governor romney is proposing, what would have to happen is, the money has to come from somewhere. when you move to a voucher system, you are putting seniors at the mercy of those insurance companies. over time, if traditional medicare has decayed or fall apart, and they are stopped. this is the reason why aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare substaatially, and that is why they
the idea came not from paul ryan but also it came from bill clinton's chief of staff. this is an idea that has been around for a long time. we are saying let's bring competition into the medicare were also people can get a choice of different plans at lower cost, better quality, and better competition. >> first of all, every study has shown that meeicare has lower administrative costs than private insurance does, which is why seniors are generally pretty happy with it. private insurance...
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if paul ryan doesn't get pushed, biden will be ready to go after him. in the last vice presidential debate i knew his stuff. even though as you showed in that clip he and mccain were good friends, he was aggressive in going after mccain and his friends. >> this was tuesday. >> why aren't you more specific i heard you sunday when you were on fox and you didn't answer his question about how we're going to you know what are your plans? >> oh, yeah, look, when you get in 0 a math conversation it can take a little while. >> steve, we've got time. >> you know, yeah, joe biden is going to step back and go take your time. go ahead, you know, we can listen. >> yeah, there is this famous s and l sketch from the 1988 election. and he said you got 1:30 and talk about what you do for the homeless problem. he says i don't have enough time there is so much to get to. you know what, we have stopped the clock for you. and he stairs. you wonder, the thing was, in the debate last night. obama had multiple opportunities to press romney and be specific on the math and prese
if paul ryan doesn't get pushed, biden will be ready to go after him. in the last vice presidential debate i knew his stuff. even though as you showed in that clip he and mccain were good friends, he was aggressive in going after mccain and his friends. >> this was tuesday. >> why aren't you more specific i heard you sunday when you were on fox and you didn't answer his question about how we're going to you know what are your plans? >> oh, yeah, look, when you get in 0 a math...